Dean’s not a messiah, and I don’t see him that way. As a developer/designer that has built all kinds of websites with Textpattern and has been fiddling with TXP plugins for a long time (glz_custom_fields is just one of the bigger plugins that I’ve written, the rest won’t be made public because it’s just too much hassle), I have been frustrated in many ways (both as a coder and as a user) and the answer to all this is simple: port it to Rails, re-write TXP from the ground-up and keep it’s functionality because that’s the 1 thing everyone agrees on. Is spam a problem for textpatternistas? Boogenstein > Comparing beer to web developent? I’m on a verge of updating my site, that I haven’t touched for couple years. You can only go two levels deep, which is a limitation. I like simple tools as well. Like Matt Mullenweg of WordPress. No, a client will on the contrary, be amazed with the new, Ã¼ber functional design of the streamlined UI of the now ublic beta WordPress 2.7. there are only 2 developers left on the team. #2 Plugins. It’s all about accomplishing what one wants to achieve, in the fastest, most efficient way possible. I also totally clicked with TXP template tags instead of ugly PHP. Thanks Oliver. i would say learning a bit of PHP is definitely much more helpful then learning proprietary TXP tags. Tech site covering all things CMS, Linux and More. That’s the reason behind it’s momentum. Similarly, both TXP and WP have a good community base and many forums where you can turn for support. Object Oriented support is inexistent, there’s no framework to simplify things (only functions that want to mimic a framework), no testing (rspec hallelujah), nu proper plugin support (you have to hunt them down, nothing like gem for example) and the list can go on. Thanks again for advice. And were still in the early stages of the financial bubble! Comparison : Textpattern -vs- WordPress #1 CMS System. Be informed though, this piece is just based on personal experiences and most users of either WP or TXP might agree (or disagree) at will. You may forget about hours of copy/pasting as CMS2CMS automates the process of migration. I do agree with you that the dev end of txp seems to lack momentum – but what it lacks in momentum is not what it lacks in quality. The social revolution of the web, with communities, which transformed into social networks, and things like Twitter and a multitude of aggregators and mashups, requires a CMS that is flexible (which TXP is) but also has the ability to let users log in on the front-end, and participate in various ways. My situation was simply that Textpattern is not born with core user self-registration features, which plays out in lack of proper e-commerce solutions, and little general use in these times of social networking fellowships being all the rage. The reason I mention Textpattern twice, is because it has often been my first choice since early 2004, and often has been the second choice that got the job done when the first choice failed its mission. And the bailout will only make it worse in the end. Did I say that? Textpattern CMS is a free, PHP open source CMS (content management system) with a browser-based interface in over 50 languages. I am in the process of moving a friend’s website. I like talented writers and that’s why I defend him. Textpattern has one section, and two categories. Connects your TXP database tables and creates a WP-style extended RSS file. I’ve stuck with WordPress since I wrote the blog post. Your post fails to give adequate grounds for concerns about a lack of momentum. Cucumbers and porn stars aside, all of the things that people have wanted throughout the years have been added, and if they weren’t someone usually provided a plug. While both Textpattern and WordPress offer impressive software, there are some differences between the two. The scary part that it will be the same next 5 years. It is somewhat of a big piece to swallow at once. Gerhard > I’m not very PHP-wise, so thanks for sharing your views on that side of the equation. I suggest Perch. If I had to choose between Jason of TextDrive and Jason the horror movie guy, I’d choose the latter, because the former is just plain rude to people (people, check the forums). Since majority of commercially viable tech blogs and websites are powered by WordPress (not to mention the millions of blogs at WordPress.com), it is but natural that WP has a large number of themes and plugins. I’m writing this on my iPhone via the WordPress iPhone app. For textpattern vs. WordPress, please look at Google Trends. but in the end i kind of feel like i've wasted my time learning a CMS that has no staying ability minus for a very small community that doesn't seem to be growing at all. Home free. The TextPattern class may not provide for text features that exist only in a particular UI Automation provider. I do remember when it was hot and had momentum. Can you feel it? There is not every Application possible in txp. So yeah, agree and disagree. The fact is, for maybe 80% of my jobs, WordPress does an amazing job. At all. And almost as sad, that WordPress vs. Textpattern looks very similar: http://www.google.com/trends?q=textpattern%2C+wordpress. According to my fave financial analytic dude, Peter Schiff, the US economy is going DOWN. I disagree that Textpattern is going stale, or that it’ll end up in the tech graveyard, because there are always clients who simply don’t care about the tech stuff. I love to hear from “Textpattern’ers” – it has a huge place in my heart as the best lil’ CMS / website platform I’ve ever used! I’m a little puzzled by your need for momentum. You could argue with me about it, but I know this because I’ve built one of the bigger plugins floating around, glz_custom_fields, the unlimited custom fields one, and oh boy was it tough work. Sorry about those links. Who will read it? Boom, saved. But those days are long gone. Has anyone ever carved a Textpattern pumkin for Halloween? But as I contemplate the launch of yet another site, I find myself being drawn more and more toward MODx. You can say Textpattern doesn’t have a leader, or whatever, other people have made the same claim, but that’s got nothing to do with Dean Allen, hasn’t for a long time. After logging in you can close it and return to this page. Maybe that was why he abandoned work on Textpattern, and let some other geeks work on it instead. Nice! I think drupal is more solid foundation and more of a true CMS than WordPress, at the same time it is very easy to extend and customize. You should check out our article on the difference between WordPress.com vs WordPress.org for more details. Moral of the story, txp still has a way to go – but the potential it has makes me want to wait and see . my fave financial analytic dude, Peter Schiff, textpattern vs. WordPress, please look at Google Trends, UI overhaul to keep up with current standards, http://www.google.com/trends?q=textpattern%2C+wordpress, http://www.alistapart.com/articles/tenyears. You will get a tag-based template language through which you get potentially limitless options to explore how you want to structure your content. Hardly a leader. I once saw a couple images of him on Flickr, but that’s all. The thing is, the world of tech moves quite fast, probably because the web is a rather young medium. This can then be imported into WordPress, or something else that supports WordPress format files. The most important reason people chose Jekyll is: So there seems there is some momentum in the venerable CMS. TextPattern vs WordPress. Which has proven to be a correct assumption. 5. It certainly points as to why some aspects of Textpattern appears to stale. I think Dean would even tell you himself he’s not a leader and doesn’t care about giving speeches (which makes your attack on him kind of pointless). Dean Allen’s background as a book cover designer and typographer, instead of “mere programmer” made Textpattern unique and wonderful: An interface that is different than most other content management systems, because it works the way I, as a non-programmer wants it to: Forms, easy-on-the-eyes template tags, clean XHTML output, textile, etc. Boom page loaded. However, even if you are new to coding, it does use a text-to-HTML converter that allows you to generate clean codes. Who will blog about a tag-parser? WordPress vs Textpattern AGAIN! Web designers, developers, publishers and bloggers love its flexibility and extensibility. Textile is a very popular element among TXP users, and once you get used to it, you really will find WP's interface bit over done. Had I realized that to begin with (knowing you’re a long-timer), I wouldn’t have given you the Dean Allen history as, of course, you know already. I totally agree that Textpattern rules over WordPress is some areas. WordPress based e-commerce solution. His site navigation sucks, so it’s hard to find other tricks of his like “Favrd”:http://www.textism.com/favrd/, but that’s Dean, he’s a maverick, a minimalist who doesn’t have to self-aggrandize because he doesn’t give a fuck what you or I think anyway. Dean Allen is the original developer of Textile, arguably the most popular markdown language on the web and since implemented in nearly every major programming language, and benefiting nearly every CMS (including WP). Even though it was superior in some aspects. And it has something Drupal doesn’t – easy hierarchical pages. And it’s not the worst part. February 5, 2006 by debbie T | Textpattern • WordPress. ... Textpattern. Remarks. For a company website that is nice. I know Dean created Textile. But, you may say, Textpattern does not have as big a community as WordPress. LOL! Both have a great user base and power many wonderful websites! It’s just for blogs, meaning everything you need is laid out for you, and … ... 8.4 9.1 Textpattern VS Open Source POS Open Source Point of Sale is a web based point of sale system. This seems to be the most debatable topic. The momentum at WP to me looks more like breathlessness. I am favouring TXP as I think it will give him a fairly easy platform for him to do his writing and to promote his book and sales. As an update let me say I'm really happy using WordPress (and Drupal for bigger projects). Safely make alterations to your site, with live data intact, and flick the changes on when approved with a single switch. Designers love both Textpattern and the iPhone. Textpattern is flexible enough to be used for anything, blogging included, but so much more. When Crockery, the codename for Textpattern version 4.1 was announced, it was also stated the current version 4.0 series would be the stable branch. This migration utility will convert your website directly to your new CMS platform swiftly and accurately. It has a powerful, sophisticated engine that can be infinitely tuned to suit whatever type of web site you can imagine. That said, for a magazine style site, it can be a good choice, but so can WordPress and Drupal. Get our latest posts straight into your inbox! Well Nancy I think I’ve already given plenty of reasons as to what I’ve been missing with Textpattern. A CMS is a software to worite and publish your digital content. With regards to the whole Dean Allen “he’s not a leader”, “he won’t get famous” thing, well, I really, REALLy don’t think it;s important. What Dean is is a talented writer. Both WordPress and Textpattern have Good Content Management Systems so users can Create Powerful websites with Both of them. but we're talking about web technology, which is constantly changing. Pleasant to read AND informative. Meta Title and Meta Description, and removal of the /category/ base – which is ALL I’m using the gigantic Yoast SEO plugin for. Additionally, I felt Textpattern smelled more and more like an old, abandoned fridge. Many users, like me, don’t care what is under the hood, as long as it’s good. Textpattern was created by Dean Allen, a quiet bookcover designer / typographer, who has rarely been seen in real life, nor online. Often ideal for the single blogger or website developer, WordPress makes content management simple even for those that lack HTML knowledge. This is the index for Textpattern themes. If one want’s to do flat, tagged “non-hierarchical” that’s easily done with posts. Thanks for commenting – I hadn’t heard the news. I tried over and over to get motivated to learn the Textpattern template and forms system, but I kept falling short. Both Textpattern and WordPress are equal customizable by means of themes and templates. Each has its own share of advantages and disadvantages as well as supporters and critics. They want a website with their info on it, they want to be able to edit that info. Textpattern plugins repository and resource site; content for and by the Textpattern Community. While this clearly does not mean that WP is a better CMS than TXP, it surely goes a long way in building the user base for WP. I am sure it is a very welcome evolutionary step, but how about a UI overhaul to keep up with current standards? WordPress Page Builders Divi Builder Review – a Refreshing Update Why the New Gutenberg Editor is a Vital (and Long Overdue) Step for WordPress Thrive Architect Review – a Landing Page Builder for Marketers Full Width Backgrounds and Color Overlays in Thrive Architect vs Elementor vs … honestly, having 2 categories as a limit for each post and the built in limit of 10 custom fields should have been fixed AGES ago. I think it’s time to give myself a chance to try WP, not just for trying something different but trying to find a better system for my site or (future) projects. Development is rather stale. Its latest version has undergone a good revamp and the organization of the administrative back end is now as user friendly as it can get! So, one of my new year resolutions for 2010, is to ONLY use WordPress. powered … I have to agree. WordPress and Textpattern are two of the most well known blogging platforms out there. But it is not optimal, and not as functional as the WordPress app that just rocks, with its perfect support for tags, categories, drafts, multiple sites, offline-mode, photo integration – it rocks! For textpattern vs. WordPress, please look at Google Trends. With that said, lets summarize each CMS's pros and cons: Textpattern (http://www.textpattern.com): Well, ideally picking a CMS is a decision that is governed by the user's specific needs (and perhaps bias towards a personal favorite). However, not much new can be seen from the outside. On a similar note, both TXP and WP have a good quiver of plugins and extensions. Supporters of WP will be tempted to portray this as higher level of activity at their developers' end, while supporters of TXP can attribute this fact to a sign of maturity of TXP in itself. Like Scientology, who in every outlet worldwide has an office ready for L. Ron Hubbard, for when he returns! Textpattern CMS is a free open source content management system written in PHP as a programming language and using a MySQL database. Design with, Ten Content Management Systems for Photo Galleries, How dynamic partnerships will be a necessity to local authorities' web channel strategy. The one issue that may prove challenging is the categories limitations. If you think hiding away in the furthest corner will make you famous (as in, gaining momentum) then I must tell you, it only ever worked for Bin Laden;-). i actually just started using wordpress a week ago without really knowing anything about it and i must say i really don't know why the majority of TXP folk are so anti-WP. There’s also a package that sets up a local server on your computer, so Drupal runs locally. When comparing WordPress vs Jekyll, the Slant community recommends Jekyll for most people.In the question“What are the best solutions for a personal blog?”Jekyll is ranked 2nd while WordPress is ranked 3rd. WordPress seems to be the leading CMS when it comes to functionality and ease of use. A fine start posting with an illustrative discussion. It gets some attention. Textpattern Resources at textpattern.org. That’s it. Reviewed by Oliver Nielsen★Updated in document.write("November 2008"); “Later, he created Textpattern, without which WordPress wouldn’t exist. I’m a bit late in a the game here, I know. And was thinking if I should stay loyal to textpattern or switch to something different. Good Article. WordPress, Joomla, Blogger, Shopify are some of the best CMS in the market. Textpattern, on the other hand, has an equally awesome (though not so end user friendly) editor, which can do almost all that you want it to, but is slightly confusing in operation (at least for starters). Textpattern is easy-to-use and manage for beginners. in order to get around this you have to use rss_unlimited_categories, a plugin the original author abandoned years ago and the unlimited custom fields plugin by gerhard which costs you a fair 20$ but should be unnecessary if TXP itself was actually fixed. He is and was mostly vocal on his dog (incidentally also called Oliver;-) movies and whatever. But are we ever going to see the next release? Tags, unlimited categories, unlimited custom fields… Stuff that should all have been implemented years ago, to stay current and competitive. Now that’s what I call momentum! Textpattern, on the other hand, has an equally awesome (though not so end user friendly) editor, which can do almost all that you want it to, … Indexhibit is cool! I think you summarized the differences, pros/cons of WordPress and Textpattern pretty accurately. For the tech obsessed, sure, Textpattern isn’t going to be enough, and you’re right, it currently isn’t keeping up with the pack, but that’s not a reason to write it off. If Crockery (4.1) comes out, with a brand new, more efficient interface, and a lot of the modern, need-to-have stuff implemented, like tags, multiple categories, etc, yes, then Textpattern might return with a vengeance, but with the downward momentum, it will end like the Commodore Amiga and Betamax video tapes – on the tech graveyard. Wix vs. WordPress: An overview. Sadly, you’re not using Textile. Hmm, the momentum of WordPress is so ‘uge that Textpattern can’t be seen as anything else than a bottomline flatline. CMS2CMS will migrate your site from Textpattern to WordPress in a few straightforward steps with no coding and extra installation at all. In that regard I look at Mambo and Joomla with evil, teary eyes. Let’s compare it to ModX and ExpressionEngine. Drupal can do anything. Been very happy doing so. Orchard. But Textpattern usually never let me down. i was a huge follower of TXP for the past couple of years. TextDrive… Don’t even go there, I had a client with them, and he had trouble with them even a year after he got his refund for an extremely poor experience. For personal use, I prefer wp, but when you’re actually trying to do something that isn’t just a run of the mill blog – txp takes a leap and bound past wp. Steve Jobs made Apple what it is today. We got you covered. There is good reason to go with txp. Well, Robert gave the right answer in his comment (1): .. I suspect there’s nothing which would discourage anyone from building one if she sees a business case in it .. But once you get it, and get comfortable with CCK, you are pretty much unstoppable. . Matt Mullenweg founder of WordPress and Dries Buytaert founder of Drupal, are true visionaries and leaders. I am reluctant to move him to WP as the frequent updates could prove a challenge for him. anyway i still like TXP, but i simply cannot justify spending more time on a system that doesn't seem to have a stable future at all. 8.3 6.0 L3 Textpattern VS Orchard Orchard is a free, open source, community-focused Content Management System built on the ASP.NET MVC platform. I had full intentions of using Textpattern as the CMS software choice for a site I am redesigning. The Template System lets you tweak your website to the heart's content. mary stepped down ages ago for whatever reason. If you put Drupal in the ring, it becomes clear that Drupal is a shooting star, no less. While Textile and other related items can be your best friends if you get used to them, they really will seem mind boggling features if you are a stranger to them. And a funny one to read, with Messiah, bin Laden and the new Carlsberg receipe in it. While Textpattern CMS is mostly seen as a weblogging tool, it has the features of a content management system and is suitable for deployment in many contexts. Create a WordPress-format export file from a Textpattern blog. He’s back to blogging pretty regularly at textism.com. developers and users) knows where to go, so to say. Think i might stick w/ WordPress though. It might be due to bloat. Drupal is very easy to move from local install to online afterwards. WebMatros © 2009–2020 – WordPress & Genesis on Media Temple. I see Dean Allen more like Steve Wozniak – without Woz, Apple would probably not have been conceived, and without Dean, Textpattern wouldn’t either. Textpattern is an elegant content management system that is free, open source software. If you are geeky enough, you really should not be worried as you can tweak TXP to your liking and build a website. As a txp -> wp -> txp again kind of guy. Don’t get me wrong: I love the product, and I realize it’s likely a labor of love for the developers. WordPress can do amazingly much because of its momentum (plugins, great documentation, and tutorials around the web) and theme hackability. TXP has always been trying to push itself as a CMS for web designers and yet the default backend is atrocious, design and coding wise. That history is … I’ve been waiting so long for the next release I feel like I’m on the trailing edge of things. So when I update some of my clients sites, that were built on Textpattern, I am truly amazed at how fast they run. It’s almost like Dean never left. Regardless of what CMS you use, whether it’s Textpattern or WordPress, always have a backup ready in the event of a problem. I would recommend you install Acquia Drupal edition, since it comes with all the essential must have modules of Drupal, including image handling modules, CCK for custom content types, etc. Yeah, sad to hear that. Sorry, Textpattern, but you need to do your business or get off the pot. WordPress has so much going on, coming soon is version 2.8, and I feel like I just updated to version 2.7 – and there are so many goodies in those updates! I’ve worked with Textpattern, Drupal, Mambo, Joomla, WordPress, and Textpattern. theres a little PHP involved, big deal. Postings in the ‘[mention] textpattern vs. wordpress’ topic in the ‘Latest happenings’ subforum. Now you can continue with the CMS saga . My comments on Dean Allen is not at all targeted at his potential for fame, but rather his potentials as a leader. I like and respect that, personally, and so do many of the folks who make those speaking rounds you allude to. I’ve used Textile for years, and Markdown as well, and been very happy using it. So, what are the distinctive features of these website building tools? WordPress is cool, but it’s changing too fast to my taste and it has too much noise around it with all the plugins and themes. Despite being among the more lightweight WordPress alternatives on this list, Textpattern is still a solid option. Textpattern definitely suffers from a lack of momentum. Hmm, the momentum of WordPress is so ‘uge that Textpattern can’t be seen as anything else than a bottomline flatline. Why does Textpattern not have such an app? I find it rather amusing that Dean has this apparant Messiah-like status, so that most of the comments I get on this blog post (and in the Textpattern forums) are semi-religious-like defence of the highly venerable Dean Allen, who I’ve only named in a bypassing paragraph. There are plenty of room for improvement in Textpattern, I already went into that in my blog post;-). According to Google Trends, while comparing, TYPO3 vs WordPress is a paramount decision for millions of website owners, but nevertheless, both of them have their weak and strong sides. It was originally developed by Dean Allen and first released in 2003. I started looking around for alternatives, and ended up having several “aha” moments with WordPress. Instead, the upcoming version 4.0.7 will feature a new tag parser, whatever that is. With him, it was always more a play of incognito silence, abrubt announcements, more silence, and then he left Textpattern. Literally. The login page will open in a new tab. Drupal is awesome, but far too complicated for my needs. Momentum is a term also used in financial trading (= pet personal interest of mine lately) and indicates the direction and force of the direction, in either direction. 20 November 2007; 28 Komentar; Umum; Sebagai seorang designer bukan programer seperti saya ini, seringkali dihadapkan pada pilihan-pilihan akan system apa yang akan digunakan untuk calon clientnya. For the sake of clarity, I've attempted to sub-divide this article into multiple heads. Got some opinions to share on either of these two blogging platforms? Sub-sections, unlimited categories, native tagging, are long lost, highly wanted features, and maybe they will come, someday. But I totally agree with you – it is much better to start with Acquia – http://acquia.com/downloads And here I just got confirmation to my doubts about textpattern. and while I find it’s not for me, I certainly think it packs some punch. Conclusion: If you are calm, if you wan’t a small, fast and stable CMS – give txp and its calm community a try. Why? However, WP is updated on a more frequent basis as compared to TXP. All the other stuff he’s given to the web is just freebie I use (and happen to like) but could, if necessary, live without just fine, including Textpattern. WordPress is great for blogging, but not much else. It is interesting nevertheless, to see porn is on the rise, while ecology isn’t really gaining much momentum compared to porn, even though most cucumbers are bigger than most of the male actors otherwise impressive reproductive organs. I just came across that post of yours in the forum and realized YOU’RE RAVEOLI!! Regardless of the degree of momentum – it is still moving forward and therefore never truely finished. sure, if you're talking about software in general. What I wanna say with that, is that I feel there’s plenty room in the market for another CMS to take over. I haven’t tested WP for some tiem now but I feel more comfortable having him use TXP. Having used Drupal myself for a few projects, I think it will make you happy. Then in came Mary and Zem… and thankfully they left again…. Dean is founder and former president of TextDrive (now a Joyent company), which he conceived under a risky but brilliant funding strategy that made it a huge success in a fraction of the time most other businees can only dream of. Later, he created Textdrive with Jason Hoffman, without which WordPress wouldn’t have found an early business model or had a home on the web. For the selling part he will use PayPal. Drupal scares some people away. Moving around the back end too, you'll find that installing themes or plugins, checking your blog's stats or even upgrading the CMS – all can be accomplished in WP in a way easier manner as compared to TXP. (I recall moving a restaurant’s site from WP to EE because of updating issue would often break their WP site). Period. I was talking about him in the past tense, so take a chill pill. Could be cool if Textpattern got momentum in the “last round” and beat WordPress:), “…I feel there’s plenty room in the market for another CMS to take over.”, Thank you for all this information. No. Nah, you’re not late, only good to hear from you Duncan! If Textpattern was built on something like CodeIgniter or Django or (double yes for this) Rails, I wouldn’t be replying to this post now. I’m not a bimbo, but I aint no geek either, and it is difficult to create buzz and momentum revolving around a new tag parser. But a leader he was/is not. Sad fact though. Currently I’m at work optimizing my WP installs, since I find saving posts, and page load in general rather slow. I’d say it has some disadvantages compared to WordPress. Whatever your problem in WordPress, just Google it, and there you are. The only catch is that TXP's back end looks slightly dated, in comparison to that of WP. And more importantly, have I ever discredited him for creating Textile? And that my friend, is due to… Momentum. Please log in again. Of course Google Trends does not quantify quality. This can prevent you from losing important site programming data as well as a quick recovery so your users are not turned away by a problematic webpage. Good article though. Power via simplicity. more major plugin authors like netcarver (mlp pack) and rob sable (every single rss_ plugin that are basically essential to TXP) have left for greener pastures. Textpattern releases are very stable, but I find them to far between eachother to keep up any momentum. Clients may start demanding free open source to be used, and maybe EllisLab, the company behind ExpressionEngine will struggle in the coming years. But web is growing and there is so much going on. As a result, Textpattern has not gotten any notable facelifts since it’s inception, and new features are far in between. Get your theme on! WordPress.com vs WordPress.org – Ease of Use: Verdict WordPress.com and WordPress.org are fairly similar for ease of use, but WordPress.com is more streamlined. It can be used even more smoothly if you are an experienced developer. Google trends for example do not quantify quality. I’m involved with a half dozen sites running Textpattern, one of which will be be the new incarnation of a popular metro-area Deaf community site. Destry > Okay okay, maybe I was a bit harsh on the weird’ol Dean then… I’ll pour some sugar somehow soon…, Yep, the eternal Raveoli himself, all these nicks around the web =). Only downer is the use of php in its template system. Simple as that. WordPress has a WYSIWYG Editor that makes editing posts and articles a breeze. Imagine if Crockery was also out in public beta now… That would be exciting as well. Lee > ModX, yeah – the totally rewritten version is now in public alpha (beta?) Recently I tried Textpattern on a small project, just for the sake of research and nostalgia. But to take any project further it needs a leader, who can… lead the project in the right direction. Who wants to develop such a stale platform into something better, or more useful? Had been cool, but not it’s becoming more and more bloated, as needs have evolved over the years and therefore most WP users rely on plugins for everything – even things that should have made it into “WordPress core” many many moons ago. No, it is not. When it comes to content management systems, there are plenty to choose from. Dean Allen is more of an influencer than you give him credit for, but if your only measure is how many live talks he’s been to, then you don’t get it anyway. Are you in search of the best Content Management System or CMS platform? But you must admit he’s not quite an industry influencer? Uncommon for this day and age. That – is – truly – WAUW. I think I will look more into Drupal. Momentum my friend. Using the same logic why don’t you try porn vs ecology? Especially if you know a little PHP, since the templates requires you to know some. Lesser number of themes or templates (as compared to WP), Unless you install WPMU, it can power only one blog, Slightly limiting back end (if you're a geek). I will get back to working on my site. F.e. His wife mentioned WP and I suggested TXP. Thanks for the nice coverage of this whole situation with textpattern. there have been MANY attempts at revamping this and yes there are a few admin themes available, but in the end, TXP just refuses to change due to its adamant stance on not wanting to break upgrades. Have you used either WP or TXP (or both) earlier? Themes. The rest is bloat and just adds cognitive (and server) overload. And Matt Mullenweg has indicated later version of the iPhone app will also include stats and comment control. This seems to be the most debatable topic. Will depend if we can consolidate and heavily edit his old site. Textpattern to WordPress exporter. PS: I’d like to note that the Textpattern community has long been the gold standard for me, when it comes to friendliness, so no hard feelings in that direction. Many great pieces of software are little known, slow to change. Plugins, plugin support, info on a plugins compatibility, is it still maintained: Frustrating. This is default Wordpress theme for Textpattern. If, however, you have plans of doing something beyond the ordinary such as having multiple blogs or prefer to tweak your articles before posting them (or simply like to get to the bottom of things), Textpattern might solve your purpose. Now such goodness is not something one would see with Textpattern, huh? Still, if you need a CMS just to power a blog or a small website, WordPress should do the trick for you. WordPress has a WYSIWYG Editor that makes editing posts and articles a breeze. That’s not criminal, but it is not something that makes a project take off and gain momentum. With Textpattern, everything is so scattered. Contrarily, I’m having a growing dissatisfaction with WordPress, which to me is looking more and more like the “Joomla of 2017” – aka a platform that’s a “has been”. Demo Enjoy ;) more details > Templates. And here the real trouble began, in my opinion… I will not name any names, but talk about asocial people being in control of Textpattern, for a few years, until lately some more open and friendly people got in charge (it seems – they’re still not quite people magnets). WordPress is way ahead from Textpattern when it comes to Plugins. Most of my websites are running on WordPress, and only a couple was (yes, was) running on TextPattern. Which is why it makes me somehow sad to see how Textpattern is slowly but surely fading into the horizon. WordPress starts easy on you, and then you can extend it with plugins depending on your needs. Textpattern plugins repository and resource site; content for and by the Textpattern Community. Destry, livetalks equal public presence. I don’t see you worrying about Carlsberg not having a new recipe yet! But who wants to develop plugins for a platform that seems to be stuck in the mud? Textpattern 4.8.0’s split live/dev theme workflow is a game changer for streamlining website updates. Finding the best Content Management System for your website can be overwhelming, especially when there are so many of them. Compare Textpattern, b2evolution, Wordpress and NucleusCMS feature by feature and find your best Blog software! Oliver, regarding Dean Cameron Allen’s online presence I’d like to bring a quite lively http://twitter.com/textism to your attention. It’s all just words and freedom of speech;-). Now my imagination running wild and my hands are itching to make something new and nice. I know I know, I can blog via the iBlogger app. Get all the latest & greatest posts delivered straight to your inbox, © 2020 CMS Critic. I have always preferred WordPress. Will a client understand it? WordPress Default 1.6 theme | Textpattern Resources Textpattern Resources at textpattern.org Why did it stall? When it comes to sharing your images on your website in the form of a web gallery, the CMS options for managing the same are, As the public sector begins to get to grips with the transformation of services to online delivery, it is more important than ever that councils. i've written little blog blubberies about TXP's superiority over EE and WP, ordered copies of the TXP book for our local library, written a few simple plugins and helped out on the forums. Who doesn’t? As two open source CMS and blogging platforms, both WordPress and Textpattern are free to … Textpattern is the same as it was 5 years ago. Apparantly because of the leadership or lack thereof. Then you can activate those you need and leave the rest alone. Yet, it still is fairly user friendly and very robust. I’m not the guy who would switch to the newest and hottest CMS over there. Sure textism.com was pretty much Oliver-focused for a while, but you don’t have a lot of time to blog and knob-polish at conferences when you’re busy running one of the most successful web hosting companies going. It was okay, but the WordPress ecosystem is far superior. But if you are just planning to get a blog or website up and ready with as little technical expertise as possible, WP should be your safest bet! In this article, I shall attempt to provide a comprehensive comparison of both WordPress vs Textpattern. Like Voltaire supposedly said, better is the enemy of good. Switch to WordPress from Textpattern 2009 As I mentioned in this previous post , I switched to WordPress (WP) from Textpattern (TXP) this time for my site redesign. Yeah, I totally agree. However, if you delve deeper, you'll find that WP has more themes and plugins as compared to TXP. I had used a couple of times for when I organized conferences for my organization ( I had to use open source software). He brought a care and craft to everything he touched that inspires me to this day.”. Okay, back to the subject…. TXP is now up to version 4.6.2. Compare Textpattern, b2evolution, NucleusCMS, Wordpress, WikyBlog and Serendipity feature by feature and find your best Blog software! I believe nobody is being “unfaithful” without some kind of good reason or at least valid motivational factors being present in the situation. Dean provided some of the earliest articles to A List Apart when it was just past it’s mail list stages; something Zeldman himself, “wrote about recently”:http://www.alistapart.com/articles/tenyears. It just plain simply lacks momentum. Let me know in the comments! If it works well, why worry about what might come? Hmm, the momentum of WordPress is so ‘uge that Textpattern can’t be seen as anything else than a bottomline flatline. It does a job and does it well. I also had a look at ExpressionEngine, but the world is still waiting for the revamped version 2.0, and I don’t feel comfortable stepping into a commercial CMS in these economically uncertain times. For example, WordPress offers an extremely simple and user-friendly interface. Textpattern is for production. Textpattern is a simple blogging solution. A google search on comparing the two brought me here to your review. Textpattern is now the go-to option for many bloggers, designers, and developers who are looking for a better experience than what they find with WordPress. Oliver, some of your arguments use an outright wrong presupposition. Work goes on inside the community, but a redesign of Textpattern.com, which has been long overdue since 2004, has not been implemented, even though community efforts to write copy, design and code was done with good energy. You can control every major section of your blog through it in a matter of few clicks. So many themes, so much and so good quality documentation that I feel right at home already. I don’t care about his fame. Constant Contact website builder is an intelligent A.I. WordPress has Plugins Above thirty Thousand but Textpattern has just over a thousand. Both WordPress and Textpattern are in active development (so this sub-heading perhaps should've been different, but I couldn't resist). Textpattern: Textpattern is one of the WordPress alternative CMS platforms that was specially designed for developers. Do you use beer to produce? But, no… Still Textpattern is stuck with maximum two categories for each article, one level deep sections, it bugs me… Textpattern could be so much to so many people. Wix and WordPress are the biggest players in the CMS space today, but they took different paths to prominence. Always bigger, better, faster – for what reason? Re: [mention] Textpattern vs WordPress - a Lack of Momentum I know Drupal very well, and it would be my first choice for anything large-scale, community-driven. If you feel happy and content with what you have in Textpattern I don’t think you should switch, but I’ve found WordPress to be surprisingly good, and the development pace is amazing, the eco-system is amazing as well. Beer is for consumption. Not the visionary thinker who speaks at universities, Google talks, TED talks, web developer / web 2.0 conferences, etc…. I have to agree and disagree, annoying I know, but here goes. The main one is that it takes some time to wrap your mind around it. For these unique and often advanced features, the AutomationElement class provides methods for a UI Automation client to access the corresponding native object model.. Fields So that followers (ie. TextPattern, on the other hand, has a slightly less refined administrative back end. Textpattern is probably one of the most lightweight WordPress alternatives in the market which is super simple in design. Compare Rubedo vs Drupal vs e107 vs Exponent CMS vs eZ Publish vs Frog CMS vs Joomla! Stay up to date! It’s not as popular as WordPress or Joomla, but the usage is similar to any other website building platform. Between the lines I read that to mean something along the lines of; new features can be deferred to Crockery, and we’ll “maintain” the stable branch. And, for now, I promise not to talk more about momentum for the next few days;-). I’ve had too many emails recently from companies shutting down some or all of their services. Crazy talk I hear you say. Textpattern is stuck in the realm of “We Publish – You Read” one-way communication (apart from comments) because it can’t do anything else. Sure there’s still a few things missing but a project like this (wp and other open source cms included) is always going to be a work in progress. Wauw huh? 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